I find that your organization is kinda creepy. What is wrong with the Apostle Paul is how you interpret the scriptures to your own distruction. There were other writings other than the KJV. There were other apostles than the Apostle Peter and Apostle Paul, who died at Rome.
You have a place for electronic donations, which must be for whomever secretly sends you money, because nobody is going to send money just because you wrote a number of pages to what you believe.
If this is your address, why not just post it.
And if you have a name that is going to benefit for the money sent, why not post it as well.
205 S. 54 St. #2
Springfield, Oregon 97478
You have a few things that I do agree with but your beliefs are just all over the place. Try to simplify what you believe in a page or two. What is the scriptures really getting at, what does the Way of life differ from the way of death. I am having trouble differentiating the confusion you have created on your website.
The scripture teaches to hold fast that which is good. I find very little good on your site.
The self-appointed inspector of religious web-sites trying to exact money for informing me the world is evil.
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I think first off, I was merely trying to get your attention; I did not threaten or intimidate you; you, however, were the one who wrote that “I should not go against us.” But since you claim to be of the church; the church judges the church, God judges those outside the church: Earthquake!
I made some suggestions to you: no trickery. Just statements whether you agree.
In essence this is what I recommended. Not to show some fancy stuff; the gosepel is a simple way of life.
Here is just some facts. No explanations needed. In simple
language.
The facts:
The world system is evil.
The state court system is secular and evil and does not make spiritual decisions.
The world system consists of political, commercial and religious corporations.
Religious corporations controlled by the world system.
As Dr. King stated: There is a church within the [organized] church as the true ecclesia and hope of the world. [There are a few still within the organized system.]
The ecclesia is the called out ones: the Church.
As the Apostle James states there is a scattered remnant of the lost, scattered tribes to which the elect saints are derived.
Marriage is the domestic church, the pattern of the gospel.
Marriage license and marriage ought not be done through the state or its churches.
The judiciary(constitution) is a restriction of the state from violating the church.
State churches/marriages maintain the status quo and it is best to avoid.
The state's orders are from Seclorum temporary judges who pose as kings and pharaohs in their own court rooms across this nation.
If Christ is King of kings, where are all of the kings? Democracy, as stated by Plato, is where the Tyrant will come.
Where are all of the apostles to judge the Nations? There is no Jury trials for Juvenile cases, they are confidential and children are suffering; the Church is suffering these violations.
Children are of the Kingdom of God.
The state continue to violate the domestic church, family, removing children
adopting them out for profit, targeting the poor and religious peoples. Example of the violations include on a grand scale: Waco compound, El Dorado compound. Many families have under done this attack on the church, directing against a family, the domestic church.
These are the facts and the group of facts are the cause. The state is evil and has violated the church on a number of occasions to maintain its position of power in the world system. This is the cause of why the church is ineffective and why the state divides the church on mundane talk and quarrels.
And so, that is why I stated some complaints. What does your discussions on ceremonially clean foods, (our bodies are temples) do to stop violations against Church or find the elect? The organized church waits impatiently for the secular courts to overturn roe and wade, while more than half of the Justices are Roman Catholic. If they haven't remedied this in over 35 years, they won't. What has independent orthodoxy groups done to alleviate the decline and increased wickedness? What does your religious studies of ancient languages amount to, when you do not place them into readable English? “Always learning but never coming to a knowledge of the truth?”
The Church is in transition, and needs unique powerful remedy, no
longer ancient Jewish or Hebrew, but Christian, a new Nation to
resist, and to at least restrain. You say you are a Humble servant,
when have you ever served when you did not want to?
Self-appointed inspector of making my complaints be known
Apologetics on cleanliness of food:
King David ate from a food source he was forbidden. Christ' disciples ate when it was forbidden. These are personal debatable matters, matters of conscience sake, not doctrine. I know a guy who said someone kept taking his extra lunch apple(substitute another fruit, if necessary)from his desk for an entire week. He took the fruit into the bathroom and rubbed it on his genitals. And then he told all the employees what he did. There were no more stolen apples. If Christ made all food only ceremonially clean: then eat up. There is no special ceremony to make this fruit clean or unclean.
The early church settled this matter at the counsel of Jerusalem circa. 50 CE/AD, when new proselytes were warned of the four requirements, and meat strangled(for idol worship) was one to be avoided.
The context suggests that food is no longer a restriction, except for conscience sake, with the work of bringing forth the gospel and restricting/restraining/confronting violations of the state. The state cannot overcome the Church, the state only violates the Church.
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I think first off, I was merely trying to get your attention; I did not threaten or intimidate you; you, however, were the one who wrote that “I should not go against us.” But since you claim to be of the church; the church judges the church, God judges those outside the church: Earthquake!
I made some suggestions to you: no trickery. Just statements whether you agree.
In essence this is what I recommended. Not to show some fancy stuff; the gosepel is a simple way of life.
Here is just some facts. No explanations needed. In
simple language.
The facts:
The world system is evil.
No argument there.
The state court system is secular and evil and does not make spiritual decisions.
yes
The world system consists of political, commercial and religious corporations.
yes
Religious corporations controlled by the world system.
yes
As Dr. King stated: There is a church within the [organized] church as the true ecclesia and hope of the world. [There are a few still within the organized system.]
IaHUeH has people that are still in the church being lied to and manipulated by the enemy.
The ecclesia is the called out ones: the Church.
Ecclesia does not equal church. They are those That Hear IaHUShUA's Word and Follow.
As the Apostle James states there is a scattered remnant of the lost, scattered tribes to which the elect saints are derived.
More than the sands of the sea.. we have "salted" the earth.
Marriage is the domestic church, the pattern of the gospel.
Marraige is a Covenant from IaHUeH
Marriage license and marriage ought not be done through the state or its churches.
Between the Individuals and IaHUeH a witness is more than helpful. and it is good for them to know that it is of a permanent nature.. No Divorce. When a woman is married she remains so till the death of her husband. No Adultery.
The judiciary(constitution) is a restriction of the state from violating the church.
It is a restriction of the state to not Violate the people. The state has no Lawful Authority over those SetApart to IaHUeH.
State churches/marriages maintain the status quo and it is best to avoid.
Yes I get this point.
The state's orders are from Seclorum temporary judges who pose as kings and pharaohs in their own court rooms across this nation.
If Christ is King of kings, where are all of the kings? Democracy, as stated by Plato, is where the Tyrant will come.
This first is True. Not sure what you are saying in second sentence. Democracy is mob rule the mob becomes tyrant.
Where are all of the apostles to judge the Nations? There is no Jury trials for Juvenile cases, they are confidential and children are suffering; the Church is suffering these violations.
The Apostles do not have authority over the rulers of the world who are ruled by the adversary. IaHUShUA' will set it all in order when He Arrives
Children are of the Kingdom of God.
No the children belong to IaHUeH and His Kingdom.
The state continue to violate the domestic church, family, removing children
adopting them out for profit, targeting the poor and religious peoples. Example of the violations include on a grand scale: Waco compound, El Dorado compound. Many families have under done this attack on the church, directing against a family, the domestic church.
The state continues to violate everybody through their bogus contracts.. they are of the world.. When a person is born of IaHUeH they are not of this world. The world has no real power over them. But all of these people that you mention "this church" are of the world for they continue in Transgression and say it is ok because they are part of some special club, and so should have more rights than the common people. When we become SetApart to IaHUeH we Follow IaHUShUA' in Obeying His Commandments over such the world has no Lawful Authority. not to say that they don't still persecute! The state, the world Rejects the Authority from OnHigh. and maintain that The Word of IaHUeH means nothing to them.
Though like others of the world they do give lip service from time to time. but usually in Cloaked Language.. referring to "The Lord, God... and Jesus Christ and The Holy Bible".. which have Nothing to do with the Truth of IaHUeH's Word.
These are the facts and the group of facts are the cause. The state is evil and has violated the church on a number of occasions to maintain its position of power in the world system. This is the cause of why the church is ineffective and why the state divides the church on mundane talk and quarrels.
The object of the state and the world is to cause us to Transgess IaHUeH's LAW. Because when we are in Sin they do own us, they then DO have Lawful Authority.. and this is the main Point Published at IaHUShUA's Website.
And so, that is why I stated some complaints. What does your discussions on ceremonially clean foods, (our bodies are temples) do to stop violations against Church or find the elect? The organized church waits impatiently for the secular courts to overturn roe and wade, while more than half of the Justices are Roman Catholic. If they haven't remedied this in over 35 years, they won't. What has independent orthodoxy groups done to alleviate the decline and increased wickedness? What does your religious studies of ancient languages amount to, when you do not place them into readable English? “Always learning but never coming to a knowledge of the truth?”
Ahhh... it is the Herb!! A Gift from OnHigh that IaHUeH Gives us. He gives to us for a reason. and no one has a right to tell us that we cannot recieve this Gift with ThanksGiving and Praise to our Father OnHigh! I feel strongly that this is an important issue.. and I have learned much through it all.
The Point is made very clear in simple language.. then we go on to explain what this simple language means and how it applies.
I am sorry this ruffles your feathers. But the Truth will not change.
The Church is in transition, and needs unique powerful remedy, no longer ancient Jewish or Hebrew, but Christian, a new Nation to resist, and to at least restrain. You say you are a Humble servant, when have you ever served when you did not want to?
the church is of the world and cannot be effective to resist their master the adversary. For the one who you obey is your master. Whether it be to IaHUeH and Life eternal... or the adversary to death and destruction..
If you do not Choose IaHUeH then by default, you are not His but given into bondage to that sin.
Self-appointed inspector of making my complaints be known
Apologetics on cleanliness of food:
King David ate from a food source he was forbidden. Christ' disciples ate when it was forbidden. These are personal debatable matters, matters of conscience sake, not doctrine. I know a guy who said someone kept taking his extra lunch apple(substitute another fruit, if necessary)from his desk for an entire week. He took the fruit into the bathroom and rubbed it on his genitals. And then he told all the employees what he did. There were no more stolen apples. If Christ made all food only ceremonially clean: then eat up. There is no special ceremony to make this fruit clean or unclean.
The early church settled this matter at the counsel of Jerusalem circa. 50 CE/AD, when new proselytes were warned of the four requirements, and meat strangled(for idol worship) was one to be avoided.
The context suggests that food is no longer a restriction, except for conscience sake, with the work of bringing forth the gospel and restricting/restraining/confronting violations of the state. The state cannot overcome the Church, the state only violates the Church.
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Your response was both illuminating and troubling:
Your responses were somewhat generality, that our common ground is the state is evil; the organized church is just another limb of the state with many still within.
On Language: When Luther translated the bible(from Latin) into the language of the people, he thought that people would conclude what he concluded. What he got was diverse interpretation, and a peasant war followed. Placing the language of the scripture(scriptura) into English has brought the conglomeration of interpretation we have today, whether it was left to Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Aramaic,ect. The point I made was to conclude to meaning of the text the way the authors had intended. The simple lives and simple language they used.
I pointed out, since you refer to the the Roman Catholics with disdain, there are a variety of scriptura, sacred writings, from various Catholic (universal) sources, Coptic, Syrian, Antiochan, ect.
In is interesting that your website includes a English/Hebrew pronunciations and varying spelling nuances. I do not think that this produces a means to effectively reach anyone, let alone the remnant.
On Time: I notice how you use the Jehovah witness reckoning, the BCE and CE. It goes without saying the World uses a Latin form AD anno domini and a English BC) from the Latin AC, which is ante Christum. Your English mixture of Hebrew, if that is what it is, is like the World's remedy so they do not have to say Ante Christum or use the AC, since it reminds people what generates electricity to the detriment of Nature. Be consistent. I used both so as not to offend your sensibilities. Also, the time frame of Christ's birth has been found to be 4 to 7 years off in the calculations. That would mean that it could be 2003 or 2007, as opposed to 2010. I will also explain later that the use of shabbat /sabbath /Saturday is equally indeterminable.
The Earthquakes are a product of the evil of the state. Christ was crucified and then an Earthquake occurred same/time and place. Time is the difference, and spiritually where these occur, I believe.
Troubling aspects: You say that you are “not of the church” “that you are not of Christ.”
God judges those outside of the Church, whether incorporated or unincorporated, whether domestic church, common/Natural law marriage, whether the individual in Christ. Test the spirits to see if they of god, and acknowledge Christ. Your comment on the “pope own the church, therefore we cannot use that term. The pope, bishop of Rome, represents Roman Catholics; his authority is only in Rome. Does that mean the Semi-arians of the Eastern church are in err? Does that mean that you do not celebrate Easter Or 14 day of nisan as the quatrodecimans-14th day, which the Eastern church retains?
When you say that you are not of Christ, you are of “kl;sdvasdsdkopf” it doesn't mean anything, and no explanation would assist. It sounds like you have a number of special words that queue you to think something other than those outside of your group. Many fraternal orders, masons, lodges, cults have the secret handshakes, rituals, and special words. Mere substitutions do not change meaning, if you mean anointed one, messiah, then state it as such.
Apologetics: In closing, I do not think that your studies came out of the KJV or the scriptures; you seem to have took on someone else's stance. Your website is not a Messianic Jew, although you claim to use a Hebrew context. The Jews missed out on their deliverer, and perhaps you might need to adjust some of your theology, with some reference. Review the persecuted ones in history for speaking out on God's true word and the corruption of the catholics and protestant. It was not 2000 years of the dark ages. Heresy and Truth will be side-by-side, with total error next to that.
I still think your web-site is a little creepy. People who do not identify themselves, it seems they are hiding something. I think that when you accept donations for a static website it is odd. If you place anything of my writings, either a proper citation(self-appointed inspector of apologetics) and any royalties due, whatever percentage, please donate personally to the homeless, widows, and orphans( it is on an honor system), an e-mail address would be helpful to defend the faith. I publish my writings on a variety of topics, gratis.
Self-appointed inspector of administering apologetics in a timely fashion.
I will follow up on apologetics to the 7 th day, shabbat, Saturday, 13 moons.